January 24, 2001 Meeting location: Orange City Hall Santiago Creek Master Plan
On Wednesday, January 24, 2001, the City of Orange and National Park Service (Rivers, Trails and Conservation Assistance Program) staff conducted workshops to collect initial responses to the suggestion that a greenway master plan be prepared for Santiago Creek.Meeting notification consisted of sending written notice to all owners of property located within 300 feet of the creek, and running announcements on the City’s world wide web site and local cable television access channel. Following is a complete listing of public comments generated in those workshops. The January 24 meeting, at Orange City Hall, included approximately 45 participants, who were divided into seven break-out groups.
Individual thoughts
Need to get county assessor parcel map for length of the creek.
Motorized vehicles (mopeds, etc.) to be prohibited?
Safety and Security
Vandalism and graffiti
Noise
Security – entire length lighted?
Dog bag stations
Safety – Flood
Private propety
Crosing of motorists and street crossings
User group education Reservoir - bond pits
Vagrancy
SurveillanceSide by side trails
Brown water
Orange Park Acres access to creek trails
HomelessSafety of adjacent property owners and residents
Connect with Santa Ana River trail, Irvine Park, Santiago Oaks Park, Yorba Park, Grijalva Park at Santiago Creek, bird sanctuary and Cleveland National Forest
Path through Hart Park and Handy creek
Bridges
Running and walking trails
Portable toilet facilities
Lighting, landscaping, irrigation
Picnic areas
Concrete channels at all costs.
Get rid of the parking lot at the creek by the drug treatment hospital
Parking
Maintenance and care
Southern Pacific Railroad right of way for Tustin Branch
Community spiri
Local access
Community-city-county-state systems
Overnight campsites
Return water to creek and enhance ground water recharge
Wildlife species
Paint ball area
Automatic lightis
Bike and hiking trail connecting to Santa Ana River and Santiago Canyon Road
Breakout/brainstorming maximized opportunities for input.
Meetings provide opportunity to see that some consensus exists.
Present project process at summit -- advertise; invite media.
Important to have unconstructed aired/visioning.
Continue public process.
Need to improve, change or elaborate
What will happen to input?
Let people know ahead of time that input will be heard; give time to prepare for meeting.
Encourage folks to visit the site (creek).
Case study information to present at meetings; maybe add meetings and workshops.
Include stakeholders in public meetings: Orange County Water District, Orange City Fire Department, US Fish & Wildlife Service, Army Corps of Engineers, etc.
Record meetings and/or broadcast meetings on cable television.
Additional comments submitted by individual participants
I would like to receive information on this project and a summary of community input. (G.K.)
Great process! Must do this now before we lose opportunities. (S.R.)
I’m behind you 100 percent. (D.E.C.)
This was a good forum for soliciting public input. I trust that the ideas generated will be carried forward throughout the process. (K.S.)
Great idea – Great idea; God speed; Good meeting. (M.B.)
Good start. (D.P.)
I would like to see City Planning initiate a landscaping plan so that native trees and plants are not only for greenways but to be a city wide development requirement, i.e.: the winning contractor for freeway on-/off-ramp landscaping use native tress and not ice plant, lantana and palm trees; that Rock Creek Park incorporate native landscaping; that major developers be required to use native landscaping like Irvine Co., Fieldstone, Koll Co. (A.P.)
I’m excited about the idea and hope that it becomes a reality. (D.C.)
I don’t think it made it into the list but we need to do watershed education that reaches out to communities whose runoff drains into the creek. (P.M.)
Wonderful! Go slowly, carefully, and keep these kinds of folks involved. The groups, combined, just about covered it all! Now – provide us all with the comments, at least in summary. Thanks! (T.A.)
A well run and facilitated meeting. Glad to see “Ground Rules” established. We liked the wording of the concept in the brochure. Very well stated. (R. & G.C.)
Living just four houses from the creek bed on east Palm, I’m deeply interested in the possibilities of a trail/park this close to home and the positive influence on property values in northeast Orange along this bed. There is more usable park space on the edge of the “stream” than all open space in Orange (west of the hills) combined. Keep me informed. (D.H.)
Very good exchange of ideas and concerns. (W.K.)
Excellent ideas voiced, good cross section of user groups, well organized. (C.M’N.)
The Santiago Creek Greenway will be one of the most popular “attractions” or recreational facility in Orange County. It’s about time that the process has been moved to a higher priority through these meetings! Thank you NPS for your help on this. (H.D’C.)
